kakalove 最近品質 - 咖啡討論
By Thomas
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at 2021-07-06T18:39
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好久沒寫那麼多字,開心~
來送50份2021衣索比亞COE樣品,一份20g隨機出,不挑名次
(UPDATE: 不好意思,沒想到咖啡版有那麼多人在潛水,
總共86名填單,我們全部都會寄送!)
※ 引述《YuntechBill (YuntechBill)》之銘言:
: 如題
: 並非引戰
: 最近和幾個同事購買卡卡愛的豆子
: 義式豆品質算不錯
: 但淺焙豆子完全不太行@@
: 小D調之前有看官網ig
: 好像有換配方
: 但味道真的受不了
: 用過杯測
: 及請多位同事朋友沖
: 味道真的不太行
: 想問問大家有沒有發生類似災情
: -----
: Sent from JPTT on my iPhone
烘豆工來回應一下,雖然我的答案一向是,我們可以退錢的~
畢竟人的感官就是有所不同,熟悉我們的就知道,我們一向不強求,這就是咖啡而已。
但是既然發文了,我一定要回應很長很長,展現誠懇的一面...
小D調這個豆子,就是一個很高海拔的農場出來的咖啡豆,然後
(Sorry,我不知道是哪個農場,應該不是我之前去過的農場)
1. 小D調不是配方,不是單一品種,是俗稱heirlooms原生種的豆子。
2. 小D調不是化學的,是農產品,因此不會跟去年的97分一樣,
如果有店家說一樣,那一定是騙人的,
農產品有甚麼特性?
每年都不太一樣,而且生豆會隨時間跟儲存環境轉變風味。
更進一步來說,每個店家的儲存環境也不同,放一陣子後,生豆風味也不同。
----逝去的總是美好。
我也希望有去年的小D調....但是,世界上沒有那麼簡單的事情啦!!!
光今年阿里山交流賽做二十幾公斤的生豆,都要配合當下環境,再跟農夫協調很多次,
然後,還是要等到靜置完成才知道風味是不是如預期。
咖啡就是仰賴時間的產物,有點不完美,生豆分數也沒出現過100分,
烘焙跟沖煮,都是沒辦法憑空出現沒有的東西。
至少,KAKALOVE有個好處,不喜歡就說不喜歡,我們可以退錢。
換烘法這件事,我在FB跟IG已經提過了,簡單說一下。
今年的批次比較早到台灣,五月底前烘焙的小D調,我嘗試用去年的烘法把香氣逼出來
豆表跟豆粉agtron差距拉到32~34(我們有兩台CM100,一台CM200,數值有些微差距)
放了些日子後,確實有香氣,但是發現,甜蜜點很小,而且器材變得非常重要
磨豆機太多細粉、水質太軟都會造成淬取的問題。
這跟我一直想要的豆子不同,我一直想讓咖啡成為隨心可得的日常飲品,
(想鑽研的人可以嘗試,想隨手一杯的可以隨性的沖煮。)
所以我們提出免費寄送服務,只要是拿到今年批次五月底以前烘焙的,都會拿到新烘法
新的烘法將agtron拉近到22上下,這樣會比較好沖。
另,我不知道大家對杯測是怎麼做?
這兩個月,我們送出好幾管aquacode去讓大家測試用aquacode出來的風味,
因為水荒跟大雨後,水庫出來的自來水非常不穩定,
就算過濾後,很多水還是跟過去不一樣。
手沖易學難精,我到現在也還在學習,基本上我相信每個烘豆者都有他的想法,
我沖煮的時候,會是第一次當基準再去修正,
嘗試抓到烘豆者的想法,不會是用一套沖法沖完所有豆子。
至於咖啡有問題,烘完我們會有杯測,另外我們也有庫存三個月內的烘焙樣品,
您只要提出日期,我們就可以進行杯測討論,很多人都有傳訊來討論過的經驗。
--
回xuann6,今年豆子上市的非常快,
我喜歡衣索水洗或是肯亞在七月的風味,衣索比亞日曬在八月後會比較好。
二到五月是很尷尬的時間,每個產區都在轉換產季,
新的還不夠強,舊的好豆又相對少。(真的厲害的豆子很快就被搶光了)
我們現在就是很尷尬的狀況,正在努力跟各生豆商要樣品,補齊中.....
回longtimens,
可能要晚點才會有發酵味衣索比亞了,我最近都沒有測到我喜歡的發酵味
不過衣索比亞開始COE後,覺得大家在做發酵味時會更謹慎
(剛喝了衣索比亞COE樣品,發酵的很漂亮,相信處理廠整個心態應該有在修正)
--
來送50份2021衣索比亞COE樣品,一份20g隨機出,不挑名次
(UPDATE: 不好意思,沒想到咖啡版有那麼多人在潛水,
總共86名填單,我們全部都會寄送!)
※ 引述《YuntechBill (YuntechBill)》之銘言:
: 如題
: 並非引戰
: 最近和幾個同事購買卡卡愛的豆子
: 義式豆品質算不錯
: 但淺焙豆子完全不太行@@
: 小D調之前有看官網ig
: 好像有換配方
: 但味道真的受不了
: 用過杯測
: 及請多位同事朋友沖
: 味道真的不太行
: 想問問大家有沒有發生類似災情
: -----
: Sent from JPTT on my iPhone
烘豆工來回應一下,雖然我的答案一向是,我們可以退錢的~
畢竟人的感官就是有所不同,熟悉我們的就知道,我們一向不強求,這就是咖啡而已。
但是既然發文了,我一定要回應很長很長,展現誠懇的一面...
小D調這個豆子,就是一個很高海拔的農場出來的咖啡豆,然後
(Sorry,我不知道是哪個農場,應該不是我之前去過的農場)
1. 小D調不是配方,不是單一品種,是俗稱heirlooms原生種的豆子。
2. 小D調不是化學的,是農產品,因此不會跟去年的97分一樣,
如果有店家說一樣,那一定是騙人的,
農產品有甚麼特性?
每年都不太一樣,而且生豆會隨時間跟儲存環境轉變風味。
更進一步來說,每個店家的儲存環境也不同,放一陣子後,生豆風味也不同。
----逝去的總是美好。
我也希望有去年的小D調....但是,世界上沒有那麼簡單的事情啦!!!
光今年阿里山交流賽做二十幾公斤的生豆,都要配合當下環境,再跟農夫協調很多次,
然後,還是要等到靜置完成才知道風味是不是如預期。
咖啡就是仰賴時間的產物,有點不完美,生豆分數也沒出現過100分,
烘焙跟沖煮,都是沒辦法憑空出現沒有的東西。
至少,KAKALOVE有個好處,不喜歡就說不喜歡,我們可以退錢。
換烘法這件事,我在FB跟IG已經提過了,簡單說一下。
今年的批次比較早到台灣,五月底前烘焙的小D調,我嘗試用去年的烘法把香氣逼出來
豆表跟豆粉agtron差距拉到32~34(我們有兩台CM100,一台CM200,數值有些微差距)
放了些日子後,確實有香氣,但是發現,甜蜜點很小,而且器材變得非常重要
磨豆機太多細粉、水質太軟都會造成淬取的問題。
這跟我一直想要的豆子不同,我一直想讓咖啡成為隨心可得的日常飲品,
(想鑽研的人可以嘗試,想隨手一杯的可以隨性的沖煮。)
所以我們提出免費寄送服務,只要是拿到今年批次五月底以前烘焙的,都會拿到新烘法
新的烘法將agtron拉近到22上下,這樣會比較好沖。
另,我不知道大家對杯測是怎麼做?
這兩個月,我們送出好幾管aquacode去讓大家測試用aquacode出來的風味,
因為水荒跟大雨後,水庫出來的自來水非常不穩定,
就算過濾後,很多水還是跟過去不一樣。
手沖易學難精,我到現在也還在學習,基本上我相信每個烘豆者都有他的想法,
我沖煮的時候,會是第一次當基準再去修正,
嘗試抓到烘豆者的想法,不會是用一套沖法沖完所有豆子。
至於咖啡有問題,烘完我們會有杯測,另外我們也有庫存三個月內的烘焙樣品,
您只要提出日期,我們就可以進行杯測討論,很多人都有傳訊來討論過的經驗。
--
回xuann6,今年豆子上市的非常快,
我喜歡衣索水洗或是肯亞在七月的風味,衣索比亞日曬在八月後會比較好。
二到五月是很尷尬的時間,每個產區都在轉換產季,
新的還不夠強,舊的好豆又相對少。(真的厲害的豆子很快就被搶光了)
我們現在就是很尷尬的狀況,正在努力跟各生豆商要樣品,補齊中.....
回longtimens,
可能要晚點才會有發酵味衣索比亞了,我最近都沒有測到我喜歡的發酵味
不過衣索比亞開始COE後,覺得大家在做發酵味時會更謹慎
(剛喝了衣索比亞COE樣品,發酵的很漂亮,相信處理廠整個心態應該有在修正)
--
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