南投魚池水晶咖啡澄清 - 咖啡討論

By Hedwig
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首先感謝Kevin5777大出來釋疑
在下把推文,幫K大做幾點整理
1.教母沒有採購任何一顆生豆
2.TVBS報導失真
http://youtu.be/UkAe-NZwMkk
3.生豆出價比Erna教母進的頂級藍山高,由於K大不在場,不能確認有這件事.
出價真相要問老闆娘.
4.謝謝Erna教母把她認為這麼好的咖啡留在台灣給台灣人享用.
也總算把大家多年的疑問給說明白了.
謝謝Kevin5777大,謝謝.
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不口出惡言,是我對你最後的溫柔.
※ 編輯: tn00723146 (114.42.107.26), 01/03/2015 23:31:48
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在下把推文,幫K大做幾點整理
1.教母沒有採購任何一顆生豆
2.TVBS報導失真
http://youtu.be/UkAe-NZwMkk
3.生豆出價比Erna教母進的頂級藍山高,由於K大不在場,不能確認有這件事.
出價真相要問老闆娘.
4.謝謝Erna教母把她認為這麼好的咖啡留在台灣給台灣人享用.
也總算把大家多年的疑問給說明白了.
謝謝Kevin5777大,謝謝.
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不口出惡言,是我對你最後的溫柔.
推 yearChen: 手網或M3呢 01/03 23:00
一開始會先用手網來玩玩當入門,但聽說拿來當做生意的工具不太適合? ※ 編輯: tn00723146 (114.42.107.26), 01/03/2015 23:31:48
推 amethystark: 借題問一下,楊家801N的評價如何? 01/04 00:11
→ bearq258: 別看不起手網,不是號稱一磅1800也是這樣烘出來 01/04 00:21
→ bearq258: 請google 魚池咖啡的報導 也只用手烘01/04 00:22
推 a19887754: R板主以前推過手網坑,用魯味網在烘的 01/04 00:44
→ KingChaly: 魚池那個應該是因為有教母加持,跟手網關係不大01/04 10:47
→ redddd: 魚池基本上就是一場鬧劇和騙局01/04 12:14
紅大我也好想知道為什麼是騙局? → acemax: 魚池那個我也滿好奇的,看起來非專業,紅大可以說一下嗎? 01/04 12:41
※ 編輯: tn00723146 (60.251.137.192), 01/04/2015 16:51:24 → bearq258: 手網烘少量玩,烘豆坑是很大學問啊。不然學越南用炒的 01/05 01:51
→ kevin5777: 這個地球上應該沒有人比我更清楚這件事情的始末, 連 01/05 22:48
→ kevin5777: 我都想請紅大分享一下, 魚池事件鬧在哪裡又騙在何處? 01/05 22:49
→ kevin5777: 諸多報導誇大失真之處確實所在多有, 但記者不是你的 01/05 22:50
→ kevin5777: 親戚更不是你的員工, 發稿前自然不會讓你校對, 看到 01/05 22:50
→ kevin5777: 錯誤又能如何?所以說「 江湖傳言未必為真 」~ 01/05 22:51
→ kevin5777: 不如藉紅大之手,好好澄清一下這場「鬧劇」和「騙局」 01/05 22:59
→ kevin5777: 不知紅大意下如何? 01/05 23:00
→ kevin5777: 我先拋磚引玉一下, 澄清上面手網的問題 01/05 23:02
→ kevin5777: 她用手網烘豆是在認識我之前的事。 如沒意外,到今天 01/05 23:06
→ kevin5777: 應該都還是用我那時為她改裝的烘豆機, 後來還在2012年 01/05 23:07
推 redddd: 生豆出口文件方便拍照給大家看一下嗎?? 01/05 23:11
→ kevin5777: 的台中咖啡展公開給大家看 01/05 23:11
→ kevin5777: 一顆豆子都沒有賣到美國是事實, 但是原因絕非你想的 01/05 23:16
→ kevin5777: 那樣 01/05 23:16
→ kevin5777: 這雖是個五惡濁世,但也不是每個人都卑鄙 01/05 23:16
→ kevin5777: 紅大何不開篇專文把所有疑問列出, 小弟身為重要關係人 01/05 23:25
→ kevin5777: 自當知無不言,言無不盡。 是神話的就把它戳破, 是謠 01/05 23:25
→ kevin5777: 言的就將它澄清。 01/05 23:26
推 redddd: 13:40處,一半的產量被教母收購,出的價比藍山還高, 01/05 23:32
→ redddd: 不就與您所說,一顆都沒賣到美國矛盾了 01/05 23:33
→ redddd: 這麼大的媒體力量,傳播不確實的內容,為何沒有人澄清更正 01/05 23:34
→ kevin5777: 我和所有人一樣,都是播出之後才看到。媒體做新聞有他 01/05 23:44
→ kevin5777: 的想法和角度,非你我所能控制, 只要不傷害人,我都 01/05 23:45
→ kevin5777: 當他是善意的謊言 01/05 23:45
→ deviljoe: 原來她是專門飛來喝魚池咖啡,不是來開KNUTSEN Petite的 01/05 23:45
→ kevin5777: 結果當然有人得到名和利, 但過程中並沒有任何人受害, 01/05 23:46
→ kevin5777: 我們也就不需要酸溜溜地雞蛋裡挑骨頭 01/05 23:46
→ kevin5777: KNUTSEN Petite這件事倒真的是個騙局,Erna 從來沒有 01/05 23:49
→ kevin5777: 授權任何人開過咖啡館 01/05 23:49
→ redddd: 呃,那個說比藍山高價是老闆娘說的,這算不算親自說謊?? 01/05 23:51
→ deviljoe: Erna說話好善意的誇張喔.. 台灣之友無誤 01/05 23:57
→ kevin5777: 這你就要問老闆娘是不是真的,至少我沒聽到這價錢。 01/06 00:01
→ kevin5777: Erna有想要買卻也是事實, 但因為產量真的很少,希望留 01/06 00:02
→ kevin5777: 在台灣給台灣人享用, 所以只送了她幾公斤帶回美國 01/06 00:02
→ redddd: 剛才的影片13:40秒看下去,老闆娘說1800半磅 01/06 00:08
→ redddd: sorry,1800半磅是tvbs配的,但老闆娘有說開價比Erna進的藍 01/06 00:11
→ redddd: 山還高 01/06 00:11
→ kevin5777: 當年我沒聽到她們談價錢,後來也沒問過老闆娘, 所以沒 01/06 00:17
→ kevin5777: 有任何立場證實 01/06 00:17
→ redddd: 就一顆都沒出口,和購買一半,出價比藍山高,這樣真的讓人 01/06 00:21
→ redddd: 覺得這不真實 01/06 00:21
→ kevin5777: 抱歉,我只能說這不是我講的, 錄這段的時候我也不在 01/06 00:28
→ kevin5777: 場, 看到播出的時候 我也很有意見, 但又能如何呢? 01/06 00:29
→ kevin5777: 說到不真實, 現今地球上有太多陰謀等待人們覺醒,去了 01/06 00:35
→ kevin5777: 解真相 有興趣的話我可以和你說個三天三夜, 魚池咖啡 01/06 00:35
→ kevin5777: 這種小事就別浪費生命了吧~ 01/06 00:35
→ sltovrey: 因為沒有人直接受害所以沒有澄清?那不就如鼎王一般的 01/06 00:45
→ sltovrey: 不實文宣?而且為什麼扯到地球上的陰謀呀?不實就是會造 01/06 00:47
推 kee32: 有人殺人,所以強姦就沒關係,是這種鬼邏輯嗎? 01/06 00:47
→ sltovrey: 成其他實在農民的受害呀。劣幣驅逐良幣論呀 01/06 00:48
推 a19887754: 反正世上的壞事太多小時候廣告不實大家不要太在意啦 01/06 00:49
推 turtlewang: Hottop是不錯用的傻瓜機(路過) 01/06 00:50
推 POID: 跟到了,也不用浪費時間了…… 01/06 01:21
→ kevin5777: 當初我會極力促成這件事,是想要推動整個地方產業,讓 01/06 03:20
→ kevin5777: 魚池鄉富含水晶礦脈能量的事被大衆注意到,雨露均霑地 01/06 03:20
→ kevin5777: 帶動當地的旅遊及各種農產品。在我原先的想法裡, 咖 01/06 03:21
→ kevin5777: 啡只是其中的一個引子, 後來媒體報導完全聚焦在咖啡, 01/06 03:21
→ kevin5777: 甚至是那對夫婦身上, 這並非我的初衷。 很多人知道, 01/06 03:21
→ kevin5777: 十餘年來我私下一直苦勸大家別種咖啡, 這觀點到今天 01/06 03:21
→ kevin5777: 都沒改變。 這不是品質問題而已,而是很現實的經濟問題 01/06 03:22
→ kevin5777: ,這部份都值得寫一大篇文章來討論了。 01/06 03:22
→ kevin5777: 整件事情嚴格來說,一開始是媒體報導局部失真,而不是 01/06 03:34
→ kevin5777: 廣告不實。至於後續的其他報導如何, 我也沒看過, 無 01/06 03:35
→ kevin5777: 法評論。 01/06 03:35
→ kevin5777: 魚池咖啡品質上不是劣幣,自然沒有驅逐良幣的問題, 01/06 03:38
→ kevin5777: 問題的根源是台灣根本不應該種咖啡。 01/06 03:38
→ kevin5777: 至於扯到地球的陰謀論, 只是因為小弟近幾年專注於這 01/06 03:42
→ kevin5777: 些問題的研究, 總希望有機會能喚起大家的注意 ,讓更 01/06 03:42
→ kevin5777: 多的人覺醒, 沒別的意思, 聽得懂的人就讓它慢慢發酵 01/06 03:43
→ kevin5777: , 聽不懂的就當我沒說過吧~ 01/06 03:43
推 acemax: 感謝kevin&紅大,總算也讓大家知道真相,好壞自有評斷吧! 01/06 09:19
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