初次拉花者幾問 - 咖啡討論
By Jacob
at 2015-10-18T22:48
at 2015-10-18T22:48
Table of Contents
開底流動性體會*1、開底新方式*1、開底體會(含錯誤修正)*1 (重要)
開底流動性體會:
之前說為了穩定每次打出來的奶泡的狀態,犧牲一點流動性、將奶泡打厚
注入時再以加快晃動頻率、加大水柱、...等技巧增加流動性
因為如果連奶泡的狀態都不穩定了,後續圖形當然更不可能穩定
所以將奶泡厚度從 0.1cm => 0.5cm,算是必要之惡
但什麼東西都用技術來克服實在太累,0.5cm => 0.3cm奶泡較合適 (數字僅供參考)
目標厚度越厚越容易達成 "每次打出來的奶泡狀態都很固定",但越厚就越沒流動性
所以最主要就是取一個自己能 "穩定" ,同時又不失去 "流動性" 的平衡
開底新方式(by賴大):
https://www.facebook.com/nsowin/videos/vb.100002902040360/738726686234059/
一句話說明就是不融合直接開底
開底晃著晃著,晃到融合完成顏色就跑出來了
優缺點很明顯,犧牲融合來取得更強大的水流(當然高手就算用此招還是可以融合得很好)
實測結果覺得優缺點各取一半較佳
因為像我們程度還不夠,用這招很容易融合不佳
所以先融合一點點,再用這招
不過奶泡從 0.5cm => 0.3cm增加流動性後連各取一半的這招都不用了,用傳統方式即可
開底體會(含錯誤修正):
前幾天才發現,我竟然連開底的目標是什麼都不知道...
或者該說我前幾天才發現,以前的開底目標一直都是錯的
借用此影片說明: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkFTJvKHmXI
開底的目標 "不是" 此影片中的1:21秒圖
而 "是" 此影片中的1:04秒圖!
觀察的目標不一樣,直接導致了結論不一樣
從而努力的方向、和努力改進後的結果通通都錯了...
正確的開底應該如1:04秒圖,長滿伸出去的刺,而且從最外面最長、到裡面最短
之後,再由1:05~1:06秒的晃動將刺往內凹成一堆打勾形狀的倒鉤
錯誤的開底千百種,就不舉例子了
但是觀察的目標錯誤導致努力的方向錯誤可以舉個例子
上一PO我說觀察到開底的葉子都黏在一起,所以用加大晃動幅度的方式來解
加大晃動幅度後,可以想像長滿伸出去的刺,但是每一根刺都過長
所以後續晃動將刺往內凹後就有過長的部分被往內凹
結果就是一堆白色被凹進來,葉子還是黏在一起
1011: http://imgur.com/JKnDm04
1012: http://imgur.com/uMnHHL9
1013: http://imgur.com/9P7BFvo
1014: http://imgur.com/XbX9M6l
1015: http://imgur.com/DyUsMWa
1016: http://imgur.com/Wwko72y
1017: http://imgur.com/ZaXHYLY
1018: http://imgur.com/5nJ6CUN
1019: http://imgur.com/MEAA1gP
1020: http://imgur.com/bUwA5PZ
1021: http://imgur.com/GCGAj6w
1022: http://imgur.com/Ce06glh
1023: http://imgur.com/54klhU7
1024: http://imgur.com/FJBYkaG
1025: http://imgur.com/vOGtVz7
1026: http://imgur.com/bXrwKTG
1027: http://imgur.com/SsbOBaP
1028: http://imgur.com/YPObuyE
1029: http://imgur.com/GUFPn2q
1030: http://imgur.com/WON2yAn
1031: http://imgur.com/cNMtzOA
1032: http://imgur.com/vjZQBkR
1033: http://imgur.com/iKYNC82
1034: http://imgur.com/gKBB6IT
1035: http://imgur.com/nOPQ2XF
1036: http://imgur.com/MJnFj7F
1037: http://imgur.com/JvnHsWH
1038: http://imgur.com/ZxR6uCt
1039: http://imgur.com/yraP4do
1040: http://imgur.com/Sd2yOQG
1041: http://imgur.com/xBkE4Kr
1042: http://imgur.com/DLVQ3i6
1043: http://imgur.com/EhUpFs1
1044: http://imgur.com/Mrbgoh6
1045: http://imgur.com/stwu1zw
1046: http://imgur.com/KvHb9qh
1047: http://imgur.com/O2Ni65j
1048: http://imgur.com/DSAcbR4
1049: http://imgur.com/6bqm72y
1050: http://imgur.com/elhblk2
1051: http://imgur.com/HaitDCM
1052: http://imgur.com/uDCoHoR
1053: http://imgur.com/BsgkarL
1054: http://imgur.com/3Odu052
1055: http://imgur.com/fbrmKvi
1056: http://imgur.com/aAFgW0V
1057: http://imgur.com/TF9ylSl
1058: http://imgur.com/EnX2d6T
1059: http://imgur.com/6nCWZhU
1060: http://imgur.com/Yhi1pOv
1061: http://imgur.com/DcY3Aio
1062: http://imgur.com/JVCqZQK
1063: http://imgur.com/YwBRygp
1064: http://imgur.com/NHVvGPp
1065: http://imgur.com/SoPyU7g
1066: http://imgur.com/B8eV2Sr
1067: http://imgur.com/gYrRJzE
1068: http://imgur.com/kQw7yFM
1069: http://imgur.com/6XrnZG0
1070: http://imgur.com/0hJNwLE
1071: http://imgur.com/qES4oEl
1072: http://imgur.com/yEJC4XZ
1073: http://imgur.com/3J3HUMC
1074: http://imgur.com/lgRopKx
1075: http://imgur.com/2B75ss9
1076: http://imgur.com/gzgS2fb
1077: http://imgur.com/b5hmivW
1078: http://imgur.com/sLK4N7C
1079: http://imgur.com/Jqw2s73
1080: http://imgur.com/39YKYqh
1081: http://imgur.com/NKyQ4UJ
1082: http://imgur.com/Stoovsp
1083: http://imgur.com/5fxxoht
1084: http://imgur.com/OTt4dC7
1085: http://imgur.com/hvrxtpw
1086: http://imgur.com/XdLgXlJ
1087: http://imgur.com/LjBhVKv
1088: http://imgur.com/ZzRUysV
1089: http://imgur.com/YVRVlLg
1090: http://imgur.com/optreAd
1091: http://imgur.com/6LhZe1f
1092: http://imgur.com/fiScwkU
1093: http://imgur.com/NUONYp9
1094: http://imgur.com/RlcDYyl
1095: http://imgur.com/lsBG7yH
1096: http://imgur.com/s2vlTr4
1097: http://imgur.com/WvvxeFb
1098: http://imgur.com/OSGDdiE
有任何指導或建議希望板友前輩們不吝指教
感謝
--
開底流動性體會:
之前說為了穩定每次打出來的奶泡的狀態,犧牲一點流動性、將奶泡打厚
注入時再以加快晃動頻率、加大水柱、...等技巧增加流動性
因為如果連奶泡的狀態都不穩定了,後續圖形當然更不可能穩定
所以將奶泡厚度從 0.1cm => 0.5cm,算是必要之惡
但什麼東西都用技術來克服實在太累,0.5cm => 0.3cm奶泡較合適 (數字僅供參考)
目標厚度越厚越容易達成 "每次打出來的奶泡狀態都很固定",但越厚就越沒流動性
所以最主要就是取一個自己能 "穩定" ,同時又不失去 "流動性" 的平衡
開底新方式(by賴大):
https://www.facebook.com/nsowin/videos/vb.100002902040360/738726686234059/
一句話說明就是不融合直接開底
開底晃著晃著,晃到融合完成顏色就跑出來了
優缺點很明顯,犧牲融合來取得更強大的水流(當然高手就算用此招還是可以融合得很好)
實測結果覺得優缺點各取一半較佳
因為像我們程度還不夠,用這招很容易融合不佳
所以先融合一點點,再用這招
不過奶泡從 0.5cm => 0.3cm增加流動性後連各取一半的這招都不用了,用傳統方式即可
開底體會(含錯誤修正):
前幾天才發現,我竟然連開底的目標是什麼都不知道...
或者該說我前幾天才發現,以前的開底目標一直都是錯的
借用此影片說明: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkFTJvKHmXI
開底的目標 "不是" 此影片中的1:21秒圖
而 "是" 此影片中的1:04秒圖!
觀察的目標不一樣,直接導致了結論不一樣
從而努力的方向、和努力改進後的結果通通都錯了...
正確的開底應該如1:04秒圖,長滿伸出去的刺,而且從最外面最長、到裡面最短
之後,再由1:05~1:06秒的晃動將刺往內凹成一堆打勾形狀的倒鉤
錯誤的開底千百種,就不舉例子了
但是觀察的目標錯誤導致努力的方向錯誤可以舉個例子
上一PO我說觀察到開底的葉子都黏在一起,所以用加大晃動幅度的方式來解
加大晃動幅度後,可以想像長滿伸出去的刺,但是每一根刺都過長
所以後續晃動將刺往內凹後就有過長的部分被往內凹
結果就是一堆白色被凹進來,葉子還是黏在一起
1011: http://imgur.com/JKnDm04
1012: http://imgur.com/uMnHHL9
1013: http://imgur.com/9P7BFvo
1014: http://imgur.com/XbX9M6l
1015: http://imgur.com/DyUsMWa
1016: http://imgur.com/Wwko72y
1017: http://imgur.com/ZaXHYLY
1018: http://imgur.com/5nJ6CUN
1019: http://imgur.com/MEAA1gP
1020: http://imgur.com/bUwA5PZ
1021: http://imgur.com/GCGAj6w
1022: http://imgur.com/Ce06glh
1023: http://imgur.com/54klhU7
1024: http://imgur.com/FJBYkaG
1025: http://imgur.com/vOGtVz7
1026: http://imgur.com/bXrwKTG
1027: http://imgur.com/SsbOBaP
1028: http://imgur.com/YPObuyE
1029: http://imgur.com/GUFPn2q
1030: http://imgur.com/WON2yAn
1031: http://imgur.com/cNMtzOA
1032: http://imgur.com/vjZQBkR
1033: http://imgur.com/iKYNC82
1034: http://imgur.com/gKBB6IT
1035: http://imgur.com/nOPQ2XF
1036: http://imgur.com/MJnFj7F
1037: http://imgur.com/JvnHsWH
1038: http://imgur.com/ZxR6uCt
1039: http://imgur.com/yraP4do
1040: http://imgur.com/Sd2yOQG
1041: http://imgur.com/xBkE4Kr
1042: http://imgur.com/DLVQ3i6
1043: http://imgur.com/EhUpFs1
1044: http://imgur.com/Mrbgoh6
1045: http://imgur.com/stwu1zw
1046: http://imgur.com/KvHb9qh
1047: http://imgur.com/O2Ni65j
1048: http://imgur.com/DSAcbR4
1049: http://imgur.com/6bqm72y
1050: http://imgur.com/elhblk2
1051: http://imgur.com/HaitDCM
1052: http://imgur.com/uDCoHoR
1053: http://imgur.com/BsgkarL
1054: http://imgur.com/3Odu052
1055: http://imgur.com/fbrmKvi
1056: http://imgur.com/aAFgW0V
1057: http://imgur.com/TF9ylSl
1058: http://imgur.com/EnX2d6T
1059: http://imgur.com/6nCWZhU
1060: http://imgur.com/Yhi1pOv
1061: http://imgur.com/DcY3Aio
1062: http://imgur.com/JVCqZQK
1063: http://imgur.com/YwBRygp
1064: http://imgur.com/NHVvGPp
1065: http://imgur.com/SoPyU7g
1066: http://imgur.com/B8eV2Sr
1067: http://imgur.com/gYrRJzE
1068: http://imgur.com/kQw7yFM
1069: http://imgur.com/6XrnZG0
1070: http://imgur.com/0hJNwLE
1071: http://imgur.com/qES4oEl
1072: http://imgur.com/yEJC4XZ
1073: http://imgur.com/3J3HUMC
1074: http://imgur.com/lgRopKx
1075: http://imgur.com/2B75ss9
1076: http://imgur.com/gzgS2fb
1077: http://imgur.com/b5hmivW
1078: http://imgur.com/sLK4N7C
1079: http://imgur.com/Jqw2s73
1080: http://imgur.com/39YKYqh
1081: http://imgur.com/NKyQ4UJ
1082: http://imgur.com/Stoovsp
1083: http://imgur.com/5fxxoht
1084: http://imgur.com/OTt4dC7
1085: http://imgur.com/hvrxtpw
1086: http://imgur.com/XdLgXlJ
1087: http://imgur.com/LjBhVKv
1088: http://imgur.com/ZzRUysV
1089: http://imgur.com/YVRVlLg
1090: http://imgur.com/optreAd
1091: http://imgur.com/6LhZe1f
1092: http://imgur.com/fiScwkU
1093: http://imgur.com/NUONYp9
1094: http://imgur.com/RlcDYyl
1095: http://imgur.com/lsBG7yH
1096: http://imgur.com/s2vlTr4
1097: http://imgur.com/WvvxeFb
1098: http://imgur.com/OSGDdiE
有任何指導或建議希望板友前輩們不吝指教
感謝
--
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